Mar 18, 2008· I've got 20k in the new 29hp 4wd tractor w/loader, the grinder, and a ripper/grader box! For me being a small tree service the w/the pto grinder is several handy tools in one. I generally load my logs, grind, grade with the loader and in one trip i'm outta there! For a lot less than most reg grinders.:hmm3grin2orange: